adrianlondon
Aug 11 2008, 10:58 am
This week's anti-theme theme meal will be Mexican.
This is a chain, but I've been told it's excellent.
EnchiladaEberhardstr. 69-71
70173 Stuttgart
This is in central Stuttgart. Please let me know if you're coming; if numbers look high I'll make a booking on the day.
moctoj2
Aug 11 2008, 11:12 am
Excellent? This is Stuttgart - not Mexicalli. It's mediocre. Been there more than once. Asking for a frozen margarita, I was faced with 'deer in the headlights' looks by the servers. Okay then, how about ice with that margarita. I got one cube. Have fun.
adrianlondon
Aug 11 2008, 11:16 am
We're going mainly to eat rather than to ask for margaritas with ice cubes in them, so should survive.
More importantly (for us) moctoj2, is the food any good?
xargon
Aug 11 2008, 11:16 am
There used to be a restaurant called the Hacienda which was close to Koenigsstrasse. The food and the vibe was quite good there. They also had live music and flamenco.
rowhan
Aug 11 2008, 11:30 am
Interesting reviews of Hacienda and another place called Cocainn here-
http://tinyurl.com/6xgwooAlso interesting list from 1.5 years back of favourite restaurants from a blog here -
http://europeforthesenses.blogspot.com/200...01_archive.html
Nowhere Man
Aug 11 2008, 12:00 pm
Count me in, would be good come along and met you all. Lemme know what time.
moctoj2
Aug 11 2008, 12:07 pm
QUOTE (adrianlondon @ Aug 11 2008, 12:16 pm)

We're going mainly to eat rather than to ask for margaritas with ice cubes in them, so should survive.
More importantly (for us) moctoj2, is the food any good?
Food: it's mediocre. I did like the fact it wasn't buried in cheese like most American/mexican restaurants, but I just wasn't impressed. I've scraped it from my list. I can recommend Bestitos nearby that has decent Spanish dishes/tapas instead. I think their food (and drinks) are better.
adrianlondon
Aug 11 2008, 12:11 pm
cool - thanks for that feedback moctoj2. A decent spanish tapas looks like a contender for the next week's meal!
Nowhereman - become somewhereman at 7:30pm.
Rowhan - gosh, Enchilada is looking more and more shite ;) Might change to Hacienda ...
mckenna
Aug 11 2008, 12:31 pm
hacienda is the one i've been to, can't vouch for the others. but this one had good (for german mexican food standards) food, live dancing/music and big tables where it's ok to be loud. i'd vote for there
update: just checked their website and they have live flamenco music every Wednesday for 'spanish night' (http://www.domino-catering.de/hacienda/index.html --> schedule on right side)
JDee
Aug 11 2008, 12:49 pm
yo, I find the whole debate about mexican food quite interesting, at risk of insulting a whole nation, isn't it a bit like arguing over McDonalds v Burger King? The places I've been to have all been ok, but it is basically pretty stodgy simplistic food. I guess the quality of the ingredients can make a little difference, but to my European tastes I'm still waiting to be impressed by Mexican food period, that's why I'm intending to try the place in Fellbach to see if they can convice me otherwise!
Hacienda can be good fun, the food is fine and amazingly quick to arrive at the table. I've been there Tuesday nights where they have salsa bands etc.. and it's a bit more like being in a club than a restaurant. Only downer for Wed is that it is underground, so no option to sit outside
adrianlondon
Aug 11 2008, 12:52 pm
I agree with you JDee, I never find Mexican food particularly exciting; but I love the whole atmosphere of Mexican restaurants/bars.
However, I've never been to Mexico (or anywhere close). American friends who live in cities where the Mexican food is meant to be great rave about it. But they are American ;)
One criteria I was given after the Ethiopian dinner was that this meal had to be outdoors. However, if Hacienda is decently air-conditioned then it'll be fine.
rowhan
Aug 11 2008, 1:55 pm
QUOTE (JDee @ Aug 11 2008, 1:49 pm)

yo, I find the whole debate about mexican food quite interesting, at risk of insulting a whole nation, isn't it a bit like arguing over McDonalds v Burger King? The places I've been to have all been ok, but it is basically pretty stodgy simplistic food. I guess the quality of the ingredients can make a little difference, but to my European tastes I'm still waiting to be impressed by Mexican food period, that's why I'm intending to try the place in Fellbach to see if they can convice me otherwise!
That's a bit of a rebound insult really. All the Mexican food in Europe, including in the big cities, is just mediocre even when it's on the right side of acceptable for consumption. People looking for Mexican food tend to be those who have eaten good Mexican food in north America, and miss it enough to settle for the lousy imitations you get in Europe. Odd, since you can get really good Russian food in north America, sometimes. I'd say Europeans are overall less adventurous in culinary terms than north Americans, and that tells on the distant cuisines.
mayfly
Aug 11 2008, 2:59 pm
Hi ,i was only twice in the Hacienda but they have really good recommendations and the food is also good too.
However you decide i be there.
Crazy_horce
Aug 11 2008, 3:05 pm
QUOTE (JDee @ Aug 11 2008, 1:49 pm)

yo, I find the whole debate about mexican food quite interesting, at risk of insulting a whole nation, isn't it a bit like arguing over McDonalds v Burger King? The places I've been to have all been ok, but it is basically pretty stodgy simplistic food. I guess the quality of the ingredients can make a little difference, but to my European tastes I'm still waiting to be impressed by Mexican food period, that's why I'm intending to try the place in Fellbach to see if they can convice me otherwise!
QUOTE (adrianlondon @ Aug 11 2008, 1:52 pm)

I agree with you JDee, I never find Mexican food particularly exciting; but I love the whole atmosphere of Mexican restaurants/bars.
However, I've never been to Mexico (or anywhere close). American friends who live in cities where the Mexican food is meant to be great rave about it. But they are American
Mexican food on this side of the pond is not much to write home about. However having made by the people who grew up perfecting it, it is quite an excellent cuisine. Both the Native mexican version and the Americanized version (no not taco bell, immagrants to America).
I understand your point of view based on your expierences however, done correctly, Mexican food is one of my favorite cuizines (along with Thai and Italian).
..and much like both of those the quaility depends greatly on the Kitchen...
adrianlondon
Aug 11 2008, 3:27 pm
So ... Hacienda or Enchilada?
Is Hacienda airconditioned down there in the basement?
Nowhere Man
Aug 11 2008, 3:34 pm
QUOTE (adrianlondon @ Aug 11 2008, 1:11 pm)

Nowhereman - become somewhereman at 7:30pm.
I'll bethereman at 7:30 put me down for one place at which ever venue is decided
rowhan
Aug 11 2008, 3:42 pm
QUOTE (adrianlondon @ Aug 11 2008, 4:27 pm)

So ... Hacienda or Enchilada?
Is Hacienda airconditioned down there in the basement?
Hacienda is A/C, Enchilada has no A/C. Just called them both to check.
Yes, I am taking suggestions for a more interesting job.
Beetle
Aug 11 2008, 3:50 pm
I'll betherebeetle at 7.30... wherever that may be.
My vote is for fast service - always appealing when there is a large group of hungry TTers about
Nowhere Man
Aug 11 2008, 3:51 pm
QUOTE (rowhan @ Aug 11 2008, 4:42 pm)

Hacienda is A/C, Enchilada has no A/C. Just called them both to check.
Yes, I am taking suggestions for a more interesting job.
A lumberjack??? All together now...Iiiiiiiii chop down trees...
So that tips it in favour of Hacienda?
jaketrit
Aug 11 2008, 4:02 pm
I like Hacienda, I think I've walked past Enchilda and the menu looked a little iffy. That being said, if we go to Hacienda and it's awful, it's Rohan's fault.
Either way I'm in.
derwiskinator
Aug 11 2008, 4:18 pm
Will not be able to attend this time
adrianlondon
Aug 11 2008, 5:36 pm
Hacienda it is!
So, Wednesday 7:30pm
HaciendaTübingerstr. 870178 Stuttgart
QUOTE (rowhan @ Aug 11 2008, 1:55 pm)

That's a bit of a rebound insult really. All the Mexican food in Europe, including in the big cities, is just mediocre even when it's on the right side of acceptable for consumption. People looking for Mexican food tend to be those who have eaten good Mexican food in north America, and miss it enough to settle for the lousy imitations you get in Europe. Odd, since you can get really good Russian food in north America, sometimes. I'd say Europeans are overall less adventurous in culinary terms than north Americans, and that tells on the distant cuisines.
what the f*&! ??? start looking for that new job now!
btw im in
MarcusEvans
Aug 11 2008, 9:51 pm
I are coming.Yus.
wolfgangstuttgart
Aug 12 2008, 12:50 am
TT live, at least once a week ... :)
So yes, I'm in.
uaflyer
Aug 12 2008, 2:13 am
Hi All
I plan to be there, if I remember to go

Cheers
Thanks in Advance Adrian
rowhan
Aug 12 2008, 10:28 am
QUOTE (woo @ Aug 11 2008, 6:58 pm)

what the f*&! ??? start looking for that new job now!
if you say so, madam...
Nowhere Man
Aug 12 2008, 11:55 am
QUOTE (adrianlondon @ Aug 11 2008, 6:36 pm)

Hacienda it is!
So, Wednesday 7:30pm
HaciendaTübingerstr. 870178 Stuttgart
>nods< count me in.
j.canada
Aug 12 2008, 2:03 pm
Yum! I can just taste the salsa right now.
ee_siew
Aug 12 2008, 3:20 pm
count me in
adrianlondon
Aug 12 2008, 3:36 pm
This is looking good! I'll count up the posts tomorrow and make a booking for a table near the stage.
LittleFish
Aug 12 2008, 4:22 pm
I will come too, and will probably bring my Germ with me this time, so make it 2
Janet
Crazy_horce
Aug 13 2008, 10:07 am
See you all there.
adrianlondon
Aug 13 2008, 2:06 pm
The restaurant isn't open at the moment and they're not answering the phone. As soon as it does open (5pm) I'll make a booking for 16-18 people.
Nowhere Man
Aug 13 2008, 2:31 pm
In the name of? Adrianlondon? So we can easily find you.
mckenna
Aug 13 2008, 2:42 pm
we're usually a pretty big, quite loud english speaking group - i think we generally stand out like a sore thumb, so no worries about finding us

see ya tonight!
abi83
Aug 13 2008, 2:50 pm
quite late entry I guess, count me in too..
mayfly
Aug 13 2008, 3:09 pm
Thought maybe anyone fancy to go to Biddy's after the diner???
Sera
Aug 13 2008, 4:30 pm
Insomnia stopped me from coming out on Sunday, but I am off work, and would like to join tonight.
Crazy_horce
Aug 13 2008, 4:43 pm
QUOTE (mayfly @ Aug 13 2008, 4:09 pm)

Thought maybe anyone fancy to go to Biddy's after the diner???
I'm headed there anyway so i'm in.
adrianlondon
Aug 13 2008, 5:48 pm
Sera - no problem; just turn up.
adrianlondon
Aug 13 2008, 11:30 pm
Thanks to everyone (20 people!) who turned up tonight. The food wasn't bad, the service was excellent and fast, and we had a whole corner of the restaurant to ourselves so we could wander around and mingle with beers and cocktails after we'd finsihed eating.
Someone left a bag behind containing a "Peak Flow Meter". If you can wheeze your way to replying then we'll meet so I can return it.
wolfgangstuttgart
Aug 14 2008, 12:16 pm
Thanks to everyone for the nice company. Hours just passed a little too fast ...
And thanks to the cook who made the delicious mint muffins (Janet?).
Last not least: to Adrian for making it all happen .. :)
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