Thor Steinar shop opens in Berlin Mitte

For anyone who has read my previous posts about racism in Germany and thinks that there isn't a problem should read this Fascist fashion.


Is it possible that a country without Germany's relatively recent (in european terms) culture of anti-semitism would have anomalies like this?

Deja vu. Link to topic

I dunno. This is all news to me. But I checked out the company website http://www.thorsteinar.de/

It doesn't look to me any different than the "urban streeetwear" sold by any number of companies. You can find the same stuff anywhere in any German city. I mean if you go banning grey cargo pants, half the men in Offenbach will be walking around naked.

Somebody explain this one to me.

You need to read the page more carefully.

which page?

Guys link at top of page:


Apparently dogs can be Nazis as well.Bastards.

I did, and was instantly appalled.


Serious stuff.

Edit: parnell beat me to it.

I did a search for Thor Steinar and related topics before starting this thread. But at least (as far as I know) the link to this site hasn't been posted yet.

No, you need to actually make your points rather than simply directing people to a link.

You've been keydecked and it had nothing to do with search

how silly. just cuz SOME rechtsextremismus folk favour this brand of clothing the shop should close?
SOME rechtsextremismus folk like to shave their heads...should hair-clippers be banned too then?

Ban hair clippers !!! Also dogs with short hair !!! All baldies must die !!!

I did make a point in my first post, but I was only really intending to start a discussion, not go off on a rant straight off the bat.

Thor Steinar is a bit different than people who shave their heads.

I'll summarize the research you could do if you were really interested in exonerating this exemplary German company. Their first logo was a poorly disguised swastika. There's a picture of it on the wikipedia article if you doubt this. The logo was outlawed in Berlin but, oddly, not Brandenburg. Their latest is the Norwegian flag, a move which has the Norwegian government suing them (it's illegal to use flags commercially). It's no secret that the Nazis were busy developing their own religion based on Norse gods and forwarded some Nordic, Aryan ideal for people.

Click around some of the Steinar pages and you'll run into plenty of Nordic superiority and a seeming love for black, red and white in the many faux logos on their clothes.

Unlike various other hooligan/supremacist appropriated brands, Thor Steinar's intent was never anything but malicious. I'm continually shocked at the level of naziism that's supported and tolerated by modern-day Germany but have yet to decide what that should mean for my life (and my two bi-national children).

Run for the hills! Hide! Close your eyes really, really tight and don't look outside!

Naziism was a religion and drew heavily on Nordic mythology. Not Norwegian mythology, Nordic, the same gods which were worshipped a couple thousand years ago here as well.

So you're neither a graphic artist nor a social or biological anthropologist or you'd know that the strongest colours are... red, white and black. You might want to read Robin Allott's 1974 Some Apparent Uniformities Between Languages in Colour-Naming. After black and white, the first colour humans tend to distinguish linguistically is red. You don't make words for things which don't interest you. There's a lot of psychology behind black, white and red.

woof.

"Some Apparent Uniformities Between Languages in Colour-Naming"
im on my way to buy it already sounds like a 'just cant put it down thing'

You must be looking pretty hard, then. I'm much more shocked by the collective guilty German conscience and how it deeply inhibited people are here in many ways because of it.

Hi Fribble - Just over Easter weekend I was standing writing an sms outside a rest stop bathroom in Saxony Anhalt when a bus full of soccer hools stopped and came in to reload on beer. I said nothing. Did not look up at them. Nothing. Suddenly I found myself being serenaded by gents in what are apparently the three most popular colors on the planet. When I looked up, three had their right hand extended and the love song was about how they were first going to take over Germany and then the world.

The woman behind the bakery counter subsequently refused to serve them and I grabbed my children and left. I supposed I should have called the police and pressed charges -- as could have anyone else present. But my concern was my children's safety. When I say I'm not sure how that sort of behavior should affect my life, I mean situations like this.

I guess it's a personal choice to ignore what Thor Steinar is.

Neither I nor anyone I know in real life has a story like this, which means nothing other than Nazism isn't a problem in my life or those of my friends, that I know of, which, in my little world (filled, incidentally, with all sorts of other far-reaching societal concerns, don't you worry) justifies my lack of intense interest and suspicion in what black, white, and red do or do not represent, or what Thor Steinar is or is not.

I could imagine that it put a damper on your nice visit to the rest stop, otherwise surely a place of peace and quiet contemplation about our collective differences, but does that incident really provide proof that "Naziism is supported and tolerated by modern Germany," as you say? The only one who did a thing was the poor bun server. You, yourself, as the potential voice of morality with bi-cultural children to protect, did nothing. How does that sort of behavior affect your life?

I have friends who support the St Kilda Football Club.

Does that make them Nazis?

Hazza: yes.

Funnily enough, St Kilda changed their strip during the second world war so that they were black, red and yellow, so as not to be associated with the nazi party!

Interesting little tid-bit I reckon...

I think it was more about not being associated with Germany at all, not just the Nazis.

Seeing as Australia were at war with them and all...

Yep, fair enough too!


I'm confused, for what reason could you have pressed charges? Did they assault you, verbally or physically? I don't believe you can just press charges willy-nilly coz you don't like what people are saying (or singing about).

And you've gotta give those Saints fans a break. They've only ever won 1 flag - and that was over 40 years ago...


"Oh when the Saints, Oh when the Saints...Oh when the Saints go marching in. Oh how I want to be at St Kilda, oh when the Saints go marching in..."

Black White Red Supporters ... Swiss Nazis ?

blowwavedave: using the "Hitler Gruss" in Germany and singing nazi songs are illegal.

I have yet to go to a St. Kilda game where I didn't feel opressed. My rights, oh they were trampled upon.

Don't forget those nazi bastards from Yemen...

Yeah, but can you personally press charges? I mean, if I see someone get punched for example, I can call the cops and report it, but I don't have the power to charge them with anything, as it wasn't me who was assualted.

I could have, yes.

It would keep your panties from unbunching and letting all the sand out, for starters.

woof.

As opposed to the USA ... American Nazis

Indeed. To deal with the one kind you should look into certain sports equipment, while for the other one a visit to a gas station is more appropriate.

Thor Steinar is a company founded by German nazis and the clothes are targeted (mainly) to fascist in germany and Scandinavia. The profit from the company goes to fund various nazi activities!

This is a known fact! I can provide with links and a longer article about it, but currently I don't have the time.

There has been a recent furore about Thor Stainar in Leipzig too. One thing I do see often in Leipzig is people wearing jackets with Norweigian flags sewn on them and Fred perry shirts. I was told these are also neo-Nazi symbols? If so, why?

Fred Perry shirts: were popular among skinheads, skinhead fashion became popular with neonazis. Not Fred Perry's fault, though.

Jeez, it sucks that these assholes have such a fetish for Norway.

Other than that, the person who said that "modern day Germany support Nazism" got to be kidding.

Hazza... this is serious stuff.. these people are dangerous and need to be stopped convinced that there ideas are wrong.If that does not work jail them. If we are not careful What happened 60 odd years ago will happen again.

So I took the piss...Oh No

Whats next Hazza KZ jokes.

I'm not going to give away what my next piss-taking target is just yet.

You'll just have to be patient and wait and see what's next...

I have a thing about Norway its one of the richest counties in the world and comes top or near the top of every ledge table you care to mention. Have you ever meet anyone from Norway or gone there or heard a bit of news from there or a sports team from or a Eurovision win or an entry, a Movie anything, anything to remember it by. So I think Norway is a made up country. But evidence like this says Norway must exist at the end of a road somewhere. Talk about an absence of presence.

I've been to Norway, it's a beautiful country and the people are friendly and not neo-Nazi types at all. The major downside is that it's bloody expensive.

Yes to all except for that Eurovision banality shite.

This is true. We are famous for our money and scenery, but not much more. Well, we are also famous for getting zero points in the Eurovision. I´m actually quite proud of that.

At any rate I think the whole concept of nations is kind of stupid, although it has proven to be convenient. But I still don´t like how the Nazis fancy our flag and symbols. Yes, Thor Steinar is a Norwegian name, and Tönsberg (or Tønsberg) a city.

But that´s not the real problem, off course, it bothers me more that these guys actually have set up a shop in the mittle of Berlin. Screw them.

Not only in Berlin but also in Magdeburg, Leipzig and Dresden.

Ahh you're being a bit harsh about Eurovision ABBA came from them and Celine Delon.

You should read Nul Points by Tim Moore. Quite entertaining stuff. Starts off with tracking down Jahn Teigen and takes it from there.

I can forgive it ABBA. They have some good songs.
But Celine Dion?
Never. Must she forever suffer in agony, and the people who voted for her too.

New Balance Shoes, an american shoe company that manufactures high quality, athletic performance footwear has been taken by Extremeright peeps in Germany, due to the N logo on the shoe representing "nationalism"...oh pu-lease!

I have a feeling the Right or Nazi movement in Germany places higher priority on fashion and less on actual agendas (not that I would like any of their agendas prioritized).

Its almost like the Goths, purely sub-cultural, a bit immature and if you are still dressing this way at 26, then a colossal nerd with a pet snake and/or tarantula at home next to your Magic cards.